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-on of russia back to my colleagues other than the most interesting omission is the lack of any detail in a procedural process. if their streets and side effects and intelligence led us to discover this hack should be kept classified, that's one thing. i am by the bureaucratic process was undertaken at the executive branch in the hypothetical case is a matter of national security. >> you can imagine the problem is we argue about everything. the idea we would put some kind of process forward. i fully understand your point and as a lawyer i think it's necessary. the idea that process will be put forward to be analyzed in a vacuum but that the exigency of circumstances, some in there would be a debate -- i understand your wanting, but under the present climate it's just almost impossible. >> i did there's a lot of merit to that point and i also think there's additional factor not about this body, but the litigation environment the is in. one of the problem within the bureaucracy, people are constantly worried about incremental effects on foia litigation that every disclosure has and i thi
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